Re: [Disasterrelief] "Public pools" under GA-18

SH
Stephanie Harris
Wed, Apr 29, 2020 6:09 PM

Yes, of course.  I take that nonsense as a given, but we've been pretty successful here in avoiding that sticky wicket so far.

Stephanie H. Harris
City Attorney
City of Paris, Texas
135 1st St. SE
Paris, Texas 75460
(903) 784-9258
sharris@paristexas.gov

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Subject: Re: [Disasterrelief] "Public pools" under GA-18

Correct. And how do we enforce “avoid” - does that mean walk far around, don’t walk across, avert one’s eyes? It’s an aspirational “shall”, not a mandatory shall.

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On Apr 29, 2020, at 12:57 PM, Mike Hayes mike.hayes@kerrvilletx.gov wrote:

And then there's the language that we have disagreements about -

"People shall avoid visiting bars, gyms, public swimming pools, ...."

So enforcement would be against "people" using the pools as opposed to the owner/operator.

MCH

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Thanks very much.  That's very helpful.

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If they need a permit to operate, they’re public so there’s that. The only pools in Garland that don’t need operational permits are home pools.

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On Apr 29, 2020, at 11:09 AM, Stephanie Harris sharris@paristexas.gov wrote:


Are my Texas friends interpreting “public pools” to include hotel pools and other privately owned pools (swim club, country club, etc.) that are accessible to more than just individual family groups?  Has there ever been any clarification on this that we can show to hotel and “private/public” pool owners?

We’re getting the calls.

Thanks!

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City of Paris, Texas
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Paris, Texas 75460
(903) 784-9258
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Yes, of course. I take that nonsense as a given, but we've been pretty successful here in avoiding that sticky wicket so far. Stephanie H. Harris City Attorney City of Paris, Texas 135 1st St. SE Paris, Texas 75460 (903) 784-9258 sharris@paristexas.gov -----Original Message----- From: Neighbor, Brad <BNeighbo@garlandtx.gov> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 1:07 PM To: Mike Hayes <mike.hayes@kerrvilletx.gov> Cc: Stephanie Harris <sharris@paristexas.gov>; disasterrelief@lists.imla.org Disaster Relief List <disasterrelief@lists.imla.org> Subject: Re: [Disasterrelief] "Public pools" under GA-18 Correct. And how do we enforce “avoid” - does that mean walk far around, don’t walk across, avert one’s eyes? It’s an aspirational “shall”, not a mandatory shall. Sent from my iPad > On Apr 29, 2020, at 12:57 PM, Mike Hayes <mike.hayes@kerrvilletx.gov> wrote: > > And then there's the language that we have disagreements about - > > "People shall avoid visiting bars, gyms, public swimming pools, ...." > > So enforcement would be against "people" using the pools as opposed to the owner/operator. > > MCH > > > Michael C. Hayes | City Attorney | City of Kerrville City Hall| 701 > Main St. | Kerrville, Texas 78028 > T: 830.258.1115 direct | 830.257.8000 > mike.hayes@kerrvilletx.gov | www.kerrvilletx.gov > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Disasterrelief <disasterrelief-bounces@lists.imla.org> On Behalf > Of Stephanie Harris > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 11:30 AM > To: Neighbor, Brad <BNeighbo@garlandtx.gov> > Cc: disasterrelief@lists.imla.org Disaster Relief List > <disasterrelief@lists.imla.org> > Subject: Re: [Disasterrelief] "Public pools" under GA-18 > > EXTERNAL EMAIL: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. > > Thanks very much. That's very helpful. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Neighbor, Brad <BNeighbo@garlandtx.gov> > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 11:27 AM > To: Stephanie Harris <sharris@paristexas.gov> > Cc: disasterrelief@lists.imla.org Disaster Relief List > <disasterrelief@lists.imla.org> > Subject: Re: [Disasterrelief] "Public pools" under GA-18 > > If they need a permit to operate, they’re public so there’s that. The only pools in Garland that don’t need operational permits are home pools. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 29, 2020, at 11:09 AM, Stephanie Harris <sharris@paristexas.gov> wrote: > >  > Are my Texas friends interpreting “public pools” to include hotel pools and other privately owned pools (swim club, country club, etc.) that are accessible to more than just individual family groups? Has there ever been any clarification on this that we can show to hotel and “private/public” pool owners? > > We’re getting the calls. > > Thanks! > > Stephanie H. Harris > City Attorney > City of Paris, Texas > 135 1st St. SE > Paris, Texas 75460 > (903) 784-9258 > sharris@paristexas.gov > > _______________________________________________ > Disasterrelief mailing list > Disasterrelief@lists.imla.org > http://lists.imla.org/mailman/listinfo/disasterrelief_lists.imla.org > _______________________________________________ > Disasterrelief mailing list > Disasterrelief@lists.imla.org > http://lists.imla.org/mailman/listinfo/disasterrelief_lists.imla.org > DISCLAIMER: This email (plus any attachments) is a public record of the City of Kerrville and is subject to public disclosure under the Texas Public Information Act. This email is also subject to the State Retention Schedule.