FW: IMLA Listservs Response to ABA Formal Opinion 511

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Amanda Karras
Tue, May 14, 2024 7:36 PM

Good afternoon:

IMLA is going to host a discussion regarding the ABA opinion on listservs this Thursday, 5/16, at 3 pm eastern.  Please use the following zoom link to participate:

https://us06web.zoom.us/j/83424309162

If you missed it, see my message below regarding the issue.

Thanks,

Amanda

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Plan Ahead! See IMLA’s upcoming eventshttps://imla.org/events/, calls and programming.

From: Amanda Karras amandakarras@imla.org
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2024 3:23 PM
To: Amanda Karras akarras@imla.org
Subject: IMLA Listservs Response to ABA Formal Opinion 511

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From the Desk of Amanda Karras

Dear IMLA Members:

Last week, the ABA issued ethical guidance regarding the use of listservs. IMLA has analyzed the Opinion, and we believe IMLA’s listservs remain an important resource and members may continue to utilize them without running afoul of the Opinion as discussed more fully below.

Formal Opinion 511https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__jtmkk8kab.cc.rs6.net_tn.jsp-3Ff-3D001fw-2DXfV-5F7-5FH2IJW11o0cAI-5FGg6W2ps60XCbDvBSBkrBA7uv2UdqOTcLRenfWvkHWSROnR3IrkYkIvkzA4fADmqfQ7pu1cPbhUCRrFjX0-5FfM01Smtx00ws-5FebZ0YGaLdhLeNFgBt2nR8ZncgWxu2ECsF7FLR1-2DLMgymUqB96oZ8Q8sz4QTj95I24Kscp52AObrTtp3vO9JStHr5QPT0XCsPdep6T3s99U8eqID3usbhgxCSJ1maLJNnSMUqaFUt9z3kgaSQnxvO6O5XA2sABqRv7l0pCpGXaZuuVk50EXjo-5FzoI8rw0dl77w-3D-3D-26c-3DkbfciF5SelUZXyKqOWDuwMoCgkh3CLn-5Fd2qcOJk46AJ73NTnoP5zaA-3D-3D-26ch-3DiDD-5F8qtX2rmyCnR57Q2Ak9Kgkz6z1XYWxg13dLNBI-5Fq4mb4lwXLnMQ-3D-3D&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=jblVzryv37xz6dGHTIBd0omyr7IZ_ghleJygNWPo2JE&m=MH6ZL3yttThIZ6yJEN5q8p9OQtVHJz7mF2t5T_IBezOZqTOLKxdGiOWhqyVFF5L0&s=fGvQ38DRePcRSp1BKHA6GZjfvBmYGlzabOcv-iPM9KA&e=, which relies on Rule 1.6 on confidentiality, states in part:

"Without the client’s informed consent, Rule 1.6 forbids a lawyer from posting [on a listserv] questions or comments relating to a representation—even in hypothetical or abstract form—if there is a reasonable likelihood that the lawyer’s posts would allow a reader then or later to infer the identity of the lawyer’s client or the particular situation involved, thereby disclosing information relating to the representation."

Rule 1.6 prevents lawyers from revealing information protected by the attorney-client relationship and the new ABA Opinion extends that obligation to listservs. Both the Rule and the Opinion are aimed at restricting the dissemination of information that could reveal attorney-client protected information.

Opinion 511 discusses a 1988 ABA Formal Opinion which provides guidance on how attorneys can continue to utilize IMLA’s listservs without violating Rule 1.6. ABA Formal Opinion 98-411 (1988), explained that “a lawyer is impliedly authorized to consult with an unaffiliated attorney in a direct lawyer-to-lawyer consultation and to reveal information relating to the representation without client consent to further the representation when such information is anonymized or presented as a hypothetical and the information is revealed under circumstances in which ‘the information will not be further disclosed or otherwise used against the consulting lawyer’s client.’” While Opinion 511 goes on to explain that the 1988 Opinion did not extend to listservs, the Opinion does not contemplate how IMLA members typically use the IMLA listservs and which IMLA believes abides by Opinion 98-411. Specifically, IMLA members may reach out to myself or another IMLA attorney on staff and under Opinion 98-411 they are impliedly authorized to pose a question in a hypothetical fashion which the IMLA attorney may then anonymize and post on the relevant listserv. In this way, no confidential information is shared on the listserv and the responses will be forwarded on to the inquiring member. Those that respond to the inquiries should be mindful not to share confidential information and if their response should be anonymized, they should let the IMLA attorney know so that the IMLA attorney does not forward any confidential information. Furthermore, posting non-confidential information to the listservs is already permissible and may continue (sharing legal updates and other publicly available information).

We believe it is important for all attorneys to abide by their ethical obligations under Rule 1.6 and individual attorneys should feel free to consult with their state ethics commissions or other ethical bodies for further information on this.

IMLA’s listservshttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__jtmkk8kab.cc.rs6.net_tn.jsp-3Ff-3D001fw-2DXfV-5F7-5FH2IJW11o0cAI-5FGg6W2ps60XCbDvBSBkrBA7uv2UdqOTcE-5F-2DCQXY5U9mnqyjM5MwohWs-2DKH1XKGXttn6lAcwBqpH0qCezr09yQnuv0Snw6RIB3h1D7bCsvjp5yWkPRJOAh2ae7wusqLjEhu2LkB5YmMl5hOVbKMRAbk-3D-26c-3DkbfciF5SelUZXyKqOWDuwMoCgkh3CLn-5Fd2qcOJk46AJ73NTnoP5zaA-3D-3D-26ch-3DiDD-5F8qtX2rmyCnR57Q2Ak9Kgkz6z1XYWxg13dLNBI-5Fq4mb4lwXLnMQ-3D-3D&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=jblVzryv37xz6dGHTIBd0omyr7IZ_ghleJygNWPo2JE&m=MH6ZL3yttThIZ6yJEN5q8p9OQtVHJz7mF2t5T_IBezOZqTOLKxdGiOWhqyVFF5L0&s=YIwaN18KLHo_Ntw9LskhMALO1joeWbR6poxk1PWDZAw&e= offer invaluable resources to IMLA members as they allow you to seek out sample policies, ordinances, and importantly, pose hypothetical questions anonymously through IMLA attorneys to reach a wide audience of local government attorneys who are often ready, willing, and able to help. We are fortunate to have such a great community of local government attorneys as a part of our membership.

Best Wishes,

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Amanda Karras

Executive Director / General Counsel

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Good afternoon: IMLA is going to host a discussion regarding the ABA opinion on listservs this Thursday, 5/16, at 3 pm eastern. Please use the following zoom link to participate: https://us06web.zoom.us/j/83424309162 If you missed it, see my message below regarding the issue. Thanks, Amanda [logo]<https://imla.org/> [facebook icon]<https://www.facebook.com/InternationalMunicipalLawyersAssociation/>[twitter icon]<https://twitter.com/imlalegal>[linkedin icon]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/international-municipal-lawyers-association-inc./> Amanda Karras (she/her) Executive Director / General Counsel International Municipal Lawyers Association P: (202) 466-5424 x7116 D: (202) 742-1018 51 Monroe St. Suite 404 Rockville, MD, 20850 Plan Ahead! See IMLA’s upcoming events<https://imla.org/events/>, calls and programming. From: Amanda Karras <amandakarras@imla.org> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2024 3:23 PM To: Amanda Karras <akarras@imla.org> Subject: IMLA Listservs Response to ABA Formal Opinion 511   [https://files.constantcontact.com/96235a6b201/eb55bcc8-73ab-4372-85c0-8156dc44a16c.png]   From the Desk of Amanda Karras   Dear IMLA Members: Last week, the ABA issued ethical guidance regarding the use of listservs. IMLA has analyzed the Opinion, and we believe IMLA’s listservs remain an important resource and members may continue to utilize them without running afoul of the Opinion as discussed more fully below. Formal Opinion 511<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__jtmkk8kab.cc.rs6.net_tn.jsp-3Ff-3D001fw-2DXfV-5F7-5FH2IJW11o0cAI-5FGg6W2ps60XCbDvBSBkrBA7uv2UdqOTcLRenfWvkHWSROnR3IrkYkIvkzA4fADmqfQ7pu1cPbhUCRrFjX0-5FfM01Smtx00ws-5FebZ0YGaLdhLeNFgBt2nR8ZncgWxu2ECsF7FLR1-2DLMgymUqB96oZ8Q8sz4QTj95I24Kscp52AObrTtp3vO9JStHr5QPT0XCsPdep6T3s99U8eqID3usbhgxCSJ1maLJNnSMUqaFUt9z3kgaSQnxvO6O5XA2sABqRv7l0pCpGXaZuuVk50EXjo-5FzoI8rw0dl77w-3D-3D-26c-3DkbfciF5SelUZXyKqOWDuwMoCgkh3CLn-5Fd2qcOJk46AJ73NTnoP5zaA-3D-3D-26ch-3DiDD-5F8qtX2rmyCnR57Q2Ak9Kgkz6z1XYWxg13dLNBI-5Fq4mb4lwXLnMQ-3D-3D&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=jblVzryv37xz6dGHTIBd0omyr7IZ_ghleJygNWPo2JE&m=MH6ZL3yttThIZ6yJEN5q8p9OQtVHJz7mF2t5T_IBezOZqTOLKxdGiOWhqyVFF5L0&s=fGvQ38DRePcRSp1BKHA6GZjfvBmYGlzabOcv-iPM9KA&e=>, which relies on Rule 1.6 on confidentiality, states in part: "Without the client’s informed consent, Rule 1.6 forbids a lawyer from posting [on a listserv] questions or comments relating to a representation—even in hypothetical or abstract form—if there is a reasonable likelihood that the lawyer’s posts would allow a reader then or later to infer the identity of the lawyer’s client or the particular situation involved, thereby disclosing information relating to the representation." Rule 1.6 prevents lawyers from revealing information protected by the attorney-client relationship and the new ABA Opinion extends that obligation to listservs. Both the Rule and the Opinion are aimed at restricting the dissemination of information that could reveal attorney-client protected information. Opinion 511 discusses a 1988 ABA Formal Opinion which provides guidance on how attorneys can continue to utilize IMLA’s listservs without violating Rule 1.6. ABA Formal Opinion 98-411 (1988), explained that “a lawyer is impliedly authorized to consult with an unaffiliated attorney in a direct lawyer-to-lawyer consultation and to reveal information relating to the representation without client consent to further the representation when such information is anonymized or presented as a hypothetical and the information is revealed under circumstances in which ‘the information will not be further disclosed or otherwise used against the consulting lawyer’s client.’” While Opinion 511 goes on to explain that the 1988 Opinion did not extend to listservs, the Opinion does not contemplate how IMLA members typically use the IMLA listservs and which IMLA believes abides by Opinion 98-411. Specifically, IMLA members may reach out to myself or another IMLA attorney on staff and under Opinion 98-411 they are impliedly authorized to pose a question in a hypothetical fashion which the IMLA attorney may then anonymize and post on the relevant listserv. In this way, no confidential information is shared on the listserv and the responses will be forwarded on to the inquiring member. Those that respond to the inquiries should be mindful not to share confidential information and if their response should be anonymized, they should let the IMLA attorney know so that the IMLA attorney does not forward any confidential information. Furthermore, posting non-confidential information to the listservs is already permissible and may continue (sharing legal updates and other publicly available information). We believe it is important for all attorneys to abide by their ethical obligations under Rule 1.6 and individual attorneys should feel free to consult with their state ethics commissions or other ethical bodies for further information on this. 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We are fortunate to have such a great community of local government attorneys as a part of our membership. 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Amanda Karras
Thu, May 16, 2024 6:55 PM

Good afternoon:

This is a reminder that we will have a call about the new ABA ethics opinion starting in a few minutes at 3 pm eastern.  I hope you can join.  The zoom link is below.

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International Municipal Lawyers Association
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D: (202) 742-1018
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Plan Ahead! See IMLA’s upcoming eventshttps://imla.org/events/, calls and programming.

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Subject: [Counties] FW: IMLA Listservs Response to ABA Formal Opinion 511

Good afternoon:

IMLA is going to host a discussion regarding the ABA opinion on listservs this Thursday, 5/16, at 3 pm eastern.  Please use the following zoom link to participate:

https://us06web.zoom.us/j/83424309162https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__us06web.zoom.us_j_83424309162&d=DwMGaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=jblVzryv37xz6dGHTIBd0omyr7IZ_ghleJygNWPo2JE&m=EVNu78_Cei8bmtBF06dVWkJzUxzhO1t4JnbaR_rCM0quv82-gsDd3HJw714Hqeft&s=R0j_qKfv9NbveGONj1Wxm4uNXChGMwmfVKNLpUOg-t8&e=

If you missed it, see my message below regarding the issue.

Thanks,

Amanda

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From: Amanda Karras <amandakarras@imla.orgmailto:amandakarras@imla.org>
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2024 3:23 PM
To: Amanda Karras <akarras@imla.orgmailto:akarras@imla.org>
Subject: IMLA Listservs Response to ABA Formal Opinion 511

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From the Desk of Amanda Karras

Dear IMLA Members:

Last week, the ABA issued ethical guidance regarding the use of listservs. IMLA has analyzed the Opinion, and we believe IMLA’s listservs remain an important resource and members may continue to utilize them without running afoul of the Opinion as discussed more fully below.

Formal Opinion 511https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__jtmkk8kab.cc.rs6.net_tn.jsp-3Ff-3D001fw-2DXfV-5F7-5FH2IJW11o0cAI-5FGg6W2ps60XCbDvBSBkrBA7uv2UdqOTcLRenfWvkHWSROnR3IrkYkIvkzA4fADmqfQ7pu1cPbhUCRrFjX0-5FfM01Smtx00ws-5FebZ0YGaLdhLeNFgBt2nR8ZncgWxu2ECsF7FLR1-2DLMgymUqB96oZ8Q8sz4QTj95I24Kscp52AObrTtp3vO9JStHr5QPT0XCsPdep6T3s99U8eqID3usbhgxCSJ1maLJNnSMUqaFUt9z3kgaSQnxvO6O5XA2sABqRv7l0pCpGXaZuuVk50EXjo-5FzoI8rw0dl77w-3D-3D-26c-3DkbfciF5SelUZXyKqOWDuwMoCgkh3CLn-5Fd2qcOJk46AJ73NTnoP5zaA-3D-3D-26ch-3DiDD-5F8qtX2rmyCnR57Q2Ak9Kgkz6z1XYWxg13dLNBI-5Fq4mb4lwXLnMQ-3D-3D&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=jblVzryv37xz6dGHTIBd0omyr7IZ_ghleJygNWPo2JE&m=MH6ZL3yttThIZ6yJEN5q8p9OQtVHJz7mF2t5T_IBezOZqTOLKxdGiOWhqyVFF5L0&s=fGvQ38DRePcRSp1BKHA6GZjfvBmYGlzabOcv-iPM9KA&e=, which relies on Rule 1.6 on confidentiality, states in part:

"Without the client’s informed consent, Rule 1.6 forbids a lawyer from posting [on a listserv] questions or comments relating to a representation—even in hypothetical or abstract form—if there is a reasonable likelihood that the lawyer’s posts would allow a reader then or later to infer the identity of the lawyer’s client or the particular situation involved, thereby disclosing information relating to the representation."

Rule 1.6 prevents lawyers from revealing information protected by the attorney-client relationship and the new ABA Opinion extends that obligation to listservs. Both the Rule and the Opinion are aimed at restricting the dissemination of information that could reveal attorney-client protected information.

Opinion 511 discusses a 1988 ABA Formal Opinion which provides guidance on how attorneys can continue to utilize IMLA’s listservs without violating Rule 1.6. ABA Formal Opinion 98-411 (1988), explained that “a lawyer is impliedly authorized to consult with an unaffiliated attorney in a direct lawyer-to-lawyer consultation and to reveal information relating to the representation without client consent to further the representation when such information is anonymized or presented as a hypothetical and the information is revealed under circumstances in which ‘the information will not be further disclosed or otherwise used against the consulting lawyer’s client.’” While Opinion 511 goes on to explain that the 1988 Opinion did not extend to listservs, the Opinion does not contemplate how IMLA members typically use the IMLA listservs and which IMLA believes abides by Opinion 98-411. Specifically, IMLA members may reach out to myself or another IMLA attorney on staff and under Opinion 98-411 they are impliedly authorized to pose a question in a hypothetical fashion which the IMLA attorney may then anonymize and post on the relevant listserv. In this way, no confidential information is shared on the listserv and the responses will be forwarded on to the inquiring member. Those that respond to the inquiries should be mindful not to share confidential information and if their response should be anonymized, they should let the IMLA attorney know so that the IMLA attorney does not forward any confidential information. Furthermore, posting non-confidential information to the listservs is already permissible and may continue (sharing legal updates and other publicly available information).

We believe it is important for all attorneys to abide by their ethical obligations under Rule 1.6 and individual attorneys should feel free to consult with their state ethics commissions or other ethical bodies for further information on this.

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Best Wishes,

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Amanda Karras

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Good afternoon: This is a reminder that we will have a call about the new ABA ethics opinion starting in a few minutes at 3 pm eastern. I hope you can join. The zoom link is below. [logo]<https://imla.org/> [facebook icon]<https://www.facebook.com/InternationalMunicipalLawyersAssociation/>[twitter icon]<https://twitter.com/imlalegal>[linkedin icon]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/international-municipal-lawyers-association-inc./> Amanda Karras (she/her) Executive Director / General Counsel International Municipal Lawyers Association P: (202) 466-5424 x7116 D: (202) 742-1018 51 Monroe St. Suite 404 Rockville, MD, 20850 Plan Ahead! See IMLA’s upcoming events<https://imla.org/events/>, calls and programming. From: Amanda Karras via Counties <counties@lists.imla.org> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2024 3:36 PM To: ethics@lists.imla.org; cityattorneys@lists.imla.org; counties@lists.imla.org; employlaw@lists.imla.org; policeadvisors@lists.imla.org; Universitycities@lists.imla.org Cc: Chuck Thompson <cthompson@imla.org>; alan@texasmunicipallawyers.com Subject: [Counties] FW: IMLA Listservs Response to ABA Formal Opinion 511 Good afternoon: IMLA is going to host a discussion regarding the ABA opinion on listservs this Thursday, 5/16, at 3 pm eastern. Please use the following zoom link to participate: https://us06web.zoom.us/j/83424309162<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__us06web.zoom.us_j_83424309162&d=DwMGaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=jblVzryv37xz6dGHTIBd0omyr7IZ_ghleJygNWPo2JE&m=EVNu78_Cei8bmtBF06dVWkJzUxzhO1t4JnbaR_rCM0quv82-gsDd3HJw714Hqeft&s=R0j_qKfv9NbveGONj1Wxm4uNXChGMwmfVKNLpUOg-t8&e=> If you missed it, see my message below regarding the issue. 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See IMLA’s upcoming events<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__imla.org_events_&d=DwMGaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=jblVzryv37xz6dGHTIBd0omyr7IZ_ghleJygNWPo2JE&m=EVNu78_Cei8bmtBF06dVWkJzUxzhO1t4JnbaR_rCM0quv82-gsDd3HJw714Hqeft&s=vTwXMtR3h8Yae9Mq-eIamL4QryE-Oqkn-QJ_l43s2bk&e=>, calls and programming. From: Amanda Karras <amandakarras@imla.org<mailto:amandakarras@imla.org>> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2024 3:23 PM To: Amanda Karras <akarras@imla.org<mailto:akarras@imla.org>> Subject: IMLA Listservs Response to ABA Formal Opinion 511   [https://files.constantcontact.com/96235a6b201/eb55bcc8-73ab-4372-85c0-8156dc44a16c.png]   From the Desk of Amanda Karras   Dear IMLA Members: Last week, the ABA issued ethical guidance regarding the use of listservs. IMLA has analyzed the Opinion, and we believe IMLA’s listservs remain an important resource and members may continue to utilize them without running afoul of the Opinion as discussed more fully below. Formal Opinion 511<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__jtmkk8kab.cc.rs6.net_tn.jsp-3Ff-3D001fw-2DXfV-5F7-5FH2IJW11o0cAI-5FGg6W2ps60XCbDvBSBkrBA7uv2UdqOTcLRenfWvkHWSROnR3IrkYkIvkzA4fADmqfQ7pu1cPbhUCRrFjX0-5FfM01Smtx00ws-5FebZ0YGaLdhLeNFgBt2nR8ZncgWxu2ECsF7FLR1-2DLMgymUqB96oZ8Q8sz4QTj95I24Kscp52AObrTtp3vO9JStHr5QPT0XCsPdep6T3s99U8eqID3usbhgxCSJ1maLJNnSMUqaFUt9z3kgaSQnxvO6O5XA2sABqRv7l0pCpGXaZuuVk50EXjo-5FzoI8rw0dl77w-3D-3D-26c-3DkbfciF5SelUZXyKqOWDuwMoCgkh3CLn-5Fd2qcOJk46AJ73NTnoP5zaA-3D-3D-26ch-3DiDD-5F8qtX2rmyCnR57Q2Ak9Kgkz6z1XYWxg13dLNBI-5Fq4mb4lwXLnMQ-3D-3D&d=DwMFaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=jblVzryv37xz6dGHTIBd0omyr7IZ_ghleJygNWPo2JE&m=MH6ZL3yttThIZ6yJEN5q8p9OQtVHJz7mF2t5T_IBezOZqTOLKxdGiOWhqyVFF5L0&s=fGvQ38DRePcRSp1BKHA6GZjfvBmYGlzabOcv-iPM9KA&e=>, which relies on Rule 1.6 on confidentiality, states in part: "Without the client’s informed consent, Rule 1.6 forbids a lawyer from posting [on a listserv] questions or comments relating to a representation—even in hypothetical or abstract form—if there is a reasonable likelihood that the lawyer’s posts would allow a reader then or later to infer the identity of the lawyer’s client or the particular situation involved, thereby disclosing information relating to the representation." Rule 1.6 prevents lawyers from revealing information protected by the attorney-client relationship and the new ABA Opinion extends that obligation to listservs. Both the Rule and the Opinion are aimed at restricting the dissemination of information that could reveal attorney-client protected information. Opinion 511 discusses a 1988 ABA Formal Opinion which provides guidance on how attorneys can continue to utilize IMLA’s listservs without violating Rule 1.6. ABA Formal Opinion 98-411 (1988), explained that “a lawyer is impliedly authorized to consult with an unaffiliated attorney in a direct lawyer-to-lawyer consultation and to reveal information relating to the representation without client consent to further the representation when such information is anonymized or presented as a hypothetical and the information is revealed under circumstances in which ‘the information will not be further disclosed or otherwise used against the consulting lawyer’s client.’” While Opinion 511 goes on to explain that the 1988 Opinion did not extend to listservs, the Opinion does not contemplate how IMLA members typically use the IMLA listservs and which IMLA believes abides by Opinion 98-411. Specifically, IMLA members may reach out to myself or another IMLA attorney on staff and under Opinion 98-411 they are impliedly authorized to pose a question in a hypothetical fashion which the IMLA attorney may then anonymize and post on the relevant listserv. In this way, no confidential information is shared on the listserv and the responses will be forwarded on to the inquiring member. Those that respond to the inquiries should be mindful not to share confidential information and if their response should be anonymized, they should let the IMLA attorney know so that the IMLA attorney does not forward any confidential information. Furthermore, posting non-confidential information to the listservs is already permissible and may continue (sharing legal updates and other publicly available information). We believe it is important for all attorneys to abide by their ethical obligations under Rule 1.6 and individual attorneys should feel free to consult with their state ethics commissions or other ethical bodies for further information on this. 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